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Subject: Re: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners helpsstealAmeri can jobs!!!
From: "David Thorburn" <thorburn@conl.net>
Date: Tue, 25 Nov 2003 16:57:14 -0800
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And you sir are a wuss!

D.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bambach, Tom" <TBambach@genchemcorp.com>
To: <sqr-users@sqrug.org>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 5:12 AM
Subject: RE: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners helpsstealAmeri
can jobs!!!


>
> Yau are an AH.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: David Thorburn [SMTP:thorburn@conl.net]
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 12:26 PM
> > To: sqr-users@sqrug.org
> > Subject: Re: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners
> > helpsstealAmeri can    jobs!!!
> >
> > To the fuzzy wuzzy PC chorus:
> >
> > It is interesting to note that all these decidedly un-patriotic emails
> > condemning me for standing up for American IT workers and calling
> > for an end to knowledge sharing with foreigners are almost exclusively
> > from public sector (edu and org) email addresses.
> >
> > To this group I must say...
> >
> > Your little ivory tower is not lay-off proof!
> >
> > Do you think that your smug insulated position in the public sector
> > will protect you from outsourcing?  Or is it just your smug selfishness?
> >
> > Do you feel secure in jobs paid for by the taxes of those currently
being
> > laid off due to foreign cheap labor in the private sector?
> >
> > You should be ashamed of yourselves!
> >
> > D.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > --
> > -------------------
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Overcashier, Patricia" <Patricia.Overcashier@aam.com>
> > To: <sqr-users@sqrug.org>
> > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 6:18 AM
> > Subject: RE: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners
helpsstealAmeri
> > can jobs!!!
> >
> >
> > > I make a motion to ban those emails.  Will anyone second my motion?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Novak, Ruth [mailto:NovakR@MLHS.ORG]
> > > Sent: Monday, November 24, 2003 7:49 AM
> > > To: sqr-users@sqrug.org
> > > Subject: RE: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners
> > > helpsstealAmerican jobs!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > THIS IS A DAMN WASTE OF TIME.  WHY ARE YOU ALLOWING SUCH EMAILS TO BE
> > > POSTED TO THIS USER GROUP????
> > >
> > > RUTH NOVAK
> > >
> > > ********************************************
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sqr-users-admin@sqrug.org [mailto:sqr-users-admin@sqrug.org] On
> > > Behalf Of John J. Berlo
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2003 12:20 PM
> > > To: sqr-users@sqrug.org
> > > Subject: RE: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners
> > > helpsstealAmerican jobs!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > I guess I'm a foreign spy then.  I work in Atlanta, GA, USA for a
global
> > > company.  Headquarters is in Sydney, Australia.  The main officers of
> > > the company are in London, England.  I support a single global
> > > implementation which includes employees from 6 continents.  My team in
> > > Atlanta also includes a Business Analyst in London and a developer in
> > > Sydney.
> > >
> > > By everyone's definition, my team is the "off-shore" outsourcing.  By
> > > your definition, I am a traitor to the UK and Australia.  I am
currently
> > > reaping the benefits of this type of practice.  The reason?  Because
my
> > > team in Atlanta is cheaper than a team in the UK and have more
> > > experience than any team in Australia would have.  So you see, the
> > > decision is not necessarily a purely economic one.
> > >
> > > ---John J Berlo
> > > Lend Lease
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: sqr-users-admin@sqrug.org [mailto:sqr-users-admin@sqrug.org] On
> > > Behalf Of David Thorburn
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 1:26 AM
> > > To: sqr-users@sqrug.org
> > > Subject: Re: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners
> > > helpsstealAmerican jobs!!!
> > >
> > > Quit trying to impress your female coworker.
> > >
> > > What I said previously stands as far as I am concerned.
> > >
> > > You have expressed support for economic traitors!
> > >
> > > I am going to track all replies which provide technical information to
> > > foreign spies and request that these incidents be investigated by the
> > > homeland security agency.
> > >
> > > You're first!
> > >
> > > D.
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > ----
> > > ------
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Larry Roux" <lroux@syr.edu>
> > > To: <sqr-users@sqrug.org>
> > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 7:05 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners
> > > helpsstealAmerican jobs!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Listen.  You have the right to think how you do (no matter if I
> > > personally
> > > think you are a major butthead).  BUT you do NOT have the right to
> > > attack individual people that you do not know.  You attacked a
coworker
> > > of mine without having one iota of knowledge about her and as long as
> > > you do that you will gain no support from intelligent, thinking
people.
> > > >
> > > > If you want to fight the fight then run for office.  Write your
> > > senator.
> > > But leave your racist comments off this list.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ******************************
> > > > Larry Roux
> > > > Syracuse University
> > > > lroux@syr.edu
> > > > *******************************
> > > > >>> thorburn@conl.net 11/21/03 21:51 PM >>>
> > > > Mac,
> > > >
> > > > Oh naive one...
> > > >
> > > > Things change fuzz-brain!
> > > >
> > > > I am talking about now, not history.
> > > >
> > > > This is TODAY's economic climate, not your liberal
> > > > PC dreamland.
> > > >
> > > > We are under seige and people like you are as much a part
> > > > of the problem as the foreign spies who are stealing our jobs amd
> > > > technical information!
> > > >
> > > > 2 million IT and technical jobs are now gone with an estimated 10
> > > > million more in the next ten years due to either ignorant people
like
> > > > you or greedy corporations outsourcing and use of sham H1B and L1B
> > > > foreign parasite workers.
> > > >
> > > > The race to the bottom quickens and you can't even see it.
> > > >
> > > > Calling me names and making personal attacks on me for pointing out
> > > > the truth will not change anything.
> > > >
> > > > I suggest you check out Lou Dobbs coverage on CNN called 'Exporting
> > > > America' if you would rather hear from a credentialed source.
> > > >
> > > > I have the facts and figures to back my opinions while
> > > > you remain in your fuzzy-brained liberal dream.
> > > >
> > > > What are you smoking?
> > > >
> > > > Your Political Correctness is sickening and naive
> > > > or quite possible the product of your drug-addled mind!
> > > >
> > > > As I said before, your foreigner-spy-friendly take on this issue is
> > > > misguided and damaging to the careers of your fellow Americans.
> > > >
> > > > D.
> > > >
> >
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > > --
> > > --
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Mac Sandridge" <mes3@emcc.net>
> > > > To: <sqr-users@sqrug.org>
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:26 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [sqr-users] Knowledge sharing with foreigners helps
> > > > stealAmerican jobs!!!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > > You are a crybaby fuzz-brained idiot.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Grow up and be on the side of your countrymen.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You should be ashamed of yourself!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ashamed?  Perhaps you should research the history of the product
we
> > > are
> > > > > discussing.  I doubt I am the only one, but I have worked with the
> > > > gentleman
> > > > > who gave us this wonderful product to be able to be discussing.
His
> > > name
> > > > > was Israel Stern.  Having spoken with him on several occasions, I
> > > can
> > > tell
> > > > > you that he was either not born in this country, or his parents
were
> > > not
> > > > (at
> > > > > least not in my opinion based on years of working with foreign
born
> > > or
> > > > first
> > > > > generation people).
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, since you choose to throw baseless slurs around, I really
have
> > > to
> > > put
> > > > > you in the same boat as the americans who are killing our country.
> > > I
> > > > again
> > > > > suggest that you seek professional help for this obvious paranoia
> > > you
> > > > feel.
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't have words to tell you how pathetic it is to see this list
> > > spammed
> > > > > by you with the continual messages about this topic.  You have
said
> > > your
> > > > > piece on this, I don't even want to think how much of the archives
> > > are
> > > > taken
> > > > > up by your useless ranting, but that is a matter for the list
> > > owners.
> > > Of
> > > > > course, I would ask that they put you on moderated status so the
> > > rest of
> > > > us
> > > > > can get back to programming in SQR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Mac.
> > > > >
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