RE: [sqr-users] Re: Knowledge Transfer and naive PC do-gooders

["Ashish Bhatt" <ashish_bhatt@hotmail.com>]

Hi All SQR/Peoplesoft Gurus,

I hope you are doing fine today.

Let me break my silence on this burning issue. Any www you go this issue is 
there. I feel that if USA companies want to remain competitive they have to 
do out-sourcing. They have no other choice. They have discovered the hidden 
treasure of highly skilled talent at low cost at the source. In 1990s they 
brought on H1B/L1 visa the techies. But due to economy downturn all 
companies have taken U-turn and started hiring at source itself. I feel and 
think this is irreversible now as it is happening at a very large scale.

We all have to think globally as these companies are thinking and moving. 
Families will have to become global.

I know Peoplesoft applications is one of the worst hit by this. Indian 
companies have tons of Peoplesoft resources available. These companies sales 
person are hitting Peoplesoft installations at US companies and taking it 
offshore.

Lets hope some miracle happens and all this stops.

Have a nice day and great weekend.

Regards.

Ashish Bhatt.

>From: "Alexander, Steve" <Steve.Alexander@ci.sj.ca.us>
>Reply-To: sqr-users@sqrug.org
>To: "'sqr-users@sqrug.org'" <sqr-users@sqrug.org>
>Subject: RE: [sqr-users] Re: Knowledge Transfer and naive PC do-gooders
>Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 10:07:13 -0700
>
>It's getting hard to resist this topic, even though I know this is the 
>wrong
>forum for it.  We've all benefited personally and as a society from
>international trade, including the international labor market.  Where were
>our high quality, low cost cars, computers, TVs, and clothes made?  Where 
>do
>we get our fresh produce in the winter?  We have a higher standard of 
>living
>because we can shop the entire world.  It's hypocritical to complain when
>smart foreigners compete for our jobs.  The answer is to do our best, and
>one way to do so is to learn from each other on forums like this.  I've
>noticed that people with non-European names (who may be US citizens) 
>provide
>as many answers as questions.
>
>The definition of "us" in the statement "They are taking jobs away from us"
>changes with each generation of bigot.  Originally, "us" was only the
>English-Americans.  Later, "us" included northern Europeans but not 
>southern
>Europeans nor eastern Europeans.  Irish-Americans were among the last
>Europeans to be accepted in the "us" club.  In the 70s and 80s, most people
>let African-Americans and female-Americans join.  Each group faces the same
>discrimination as the last, in almost exactly the same words.  That's what
>discredits racism/sexism/xenophobia for me.  We're a better society for
>having the Irish, the Italians, and now the Indians among us.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: EricRection@aol.com [mailto:EricRection@aol.com]
>Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 9:22 AM
>To: sqr-users@sqrug.org
>Subject: Re: [sqr-users] Re: Knowledge Transfer and naive PC do-gooders
>
>
>I don't think you can complain if work goes overseas, e.g. shifting
>manufacturing to Mexico, or if foreign workers comes "over here", e.g.
>Injuns coming to
>the US. I believe in the free flow of all factors of production, of which
>labour is one.
>
>Anglo-saxons have a competitive advantage over Indians because our
>communication skills are usually better: I've worked with Indian, Russian
>and Nigerian
>DBAs whose accents were sometimes so impenetrable they were an unwise 
>choice
>
>(and one of the Indian guys got canned because his work was shit, too). I
>don't
>have a problem with economic migrants if their work is good and it isn't a
>strain to talk to them, but my blood boils when the opposite is true. So I
>don't
>object to all foreign labourers - I've worked in six countries so that's me
>you're talking about - but I often wish management knew a false economy 
>when
>it
>saw one, and that's how the problem can be solved.
>
>I'd love to go to the US to be a visa slave labourer (hey, you can piss in
>my
>face too, so long as I can keep my mouth closed). Does this make me The
>Enemy?
>
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