Re: 'Whining Baby Dave'

[Rick Hansen <rick.hansen@RSMI.COM>]

For one who has "drawn the line" concerning not wanting employers to get
free help, you seem unconcerned about the amount of time/money YOUR
ramblings and antics are costing numerous companies around the world.  Is
it just a one way street with you?

I think most people agree with your concerns over the way the direction the
IT industry seems to be moving.  (Concerning downsizing and replacing more
experienced {$$$} workers with less experienced workers.)  We just seem to
disagree as to how to deal with it.

You would like to condemn all who, in your opinion, seem to be asking
questions in such a manner that would lead you to believe that they are
programmers - when in fact they are devious managers trying to save a few
bucks.

The rest of us would like to accept the question at its face value and
answer it if we are able.  (As other have done for us.)  That is the beauty
of this type of forum, answer the question if you are able.  In your case,
if you feel that a manager is trying to save a few bucks by "slipping" one
by - then just ignore it and quietly laugh at the rest of us poor saps who
blindly help.




                    David Thorburn
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                    "Discussion of
                    SQR, Brio
                    Software's
                    database
                    reporting
                    language"
                    <SQR-USERS@lis
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                    01/29/2002
                    02:32 PM
                    Please respond
                    to sqr-users






Denise,

I didn't realise your were so ANAL!

How much time did you spend desperately trying to find something to attack
me with?\
I stand by ALL my posts.  Do you really think that your warped opinions
matter to me?

Resorting to a personal attack because you don't like the message shows
that
you have no class or sense of perspective.

And, if your LOL, then your sense of humor reveals a callus mean-spirited
person!

I wonder if the folks at Vicor know that you have so much time on your
hands.  Maybe I'll check into this!

I am calling you something now that I will not print here!

D.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Denise White" <dewhite@VICR.COM>
To: <SQR-USERS@list.iex.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 6:21 AM
Subject: Re: Freebies!


> 'the business of this group' - and that would be?  Posting resumes to the
group,
> seeking employment, as you tried to do last year?  I'm not sure that
qualifies
> you to be questioning the appropriateness of posts to the board, as it
violates
> the guidelines of usage.  When someone pointed out that your job posting
was
> inappropriate, you called him a fascist.  So, do we all start calling you
> 'Whining Baby Dave' now?  LOL!
>
> I do agree that SQR is NOT an end-user tool.  It is a fairly complex
programming
> language; more akin to a 3GL than a 4GL.  End-users would be better off
(if
> using PeopleSoft) using Query and asking their programmers to write SQRs
for
> anything too complex to accomplish in that way.  Of course, Rwiz does
provide a
> wizard interface that end-users could use to create SQR programs, but
they
> probably should not attempt more than superficial modifications to the
programs
> so produced.
>
> That said, I do not waste my time trying to gauge the qualifications or
skills
> level of people on this board seeking help.  If I know the answer to a
question,
> I will post it.  If they do not have the necessary skills, they may not
be
able
> to understand the answer.  Some of the questions are very basic, but as
has been
> pointed out, not all basic questions come from non-programmers.  I am
currently
> helping out on a project where they are so desperate for additional
resources
> that they have taken several experienced programmers who do not happen to
know
> SQR and thrown them into SQR programming.  I do not really agree with
this
> tactic (I am spending more time helping one of them than I am on my own
work),
> but it happens.  If I see a question like 'How do you write an SQR
program?', I
> ignore it (LOL).
>
> Denise White
> Sr. Programmer/Analyst
> Vicor
> ------------------------------
>
> Date:    Mon, 28 Jan 2002 10:41:44 -0800
> From:    David Thorburn <thorburn@CONL.NET>
> Subject: Re: Freebies!
>
> Several of you have completely missed my point!
>
> ...
>
> Let's wrap this up and get on with the business of this group.
>
> Good wishes to all.
>
> D.